The HJ knife pattern PRE-TR?

Ladies and Gents.

As we know, the steel sheath HJ knife pattern was used after WWII and is indeed still made today - by Böker et al.

Ive encountered several post war knives of the pattern - some with the Fleur-de-lis diamond and some without.

My question; was the knife used by Scouts or youth organisations prior to the emerging Third Reich and HJ?

If yes, are there any sources/pics, please?

Thx in advance.

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