Hello everyone, I have been advised to move these here to the correct forum area. Sorry for any irritation caused. I came across these in a person to person deal and it needed to happen on the spot so I had to take the chance. I could not render them fake on the spot from look or feel, but I am far from an expert. I have examined them and one issue i have discovered is that the silver one appears to have had the black piece fall out and get glued back in semi crooked and sloppy or its a complete fake. I paid roughly $50 a piece. thank you all for your time.

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