Need some help here. I know only a little about the rail car flatware used by Hitler, Goring and Himmler. A fellow collector in the midwest asked me about these pieces today and emailed me photos. I told him what I knew which was I believe Hitler’s Car was 10244 and Goring’s Car for Dining / Salon was 10243. These are marked with the 90 which is the Bruckmann firm I believe who was one of the main makers. Other than that I cannot verify if they are real or not. I have seen some on major dealer sites showing Goring’s rail car as 10205 as well.

I know in the past these have had whirls and swirls of authenticity questions. I have seen what I think to be 1970s polish made fakes that are lasered and not stamped. What does the group of experts know about these and do these look okay to you?

My question to my friend James on these I have always wondered about was if all DR Adler Marked Flatware was marked with a car number? Are there examples without any 3 digit number? If so why not have the full 10243 and 10244 versus just the 3 digit indentifier? Was the 3 digit number added post war to make these pieces more valuable as they were made to seem from Hitler’s, Himmler’s or Goring’s car. I may be over thinking this? i unfortunately could not find any deep threads on this and don’t have the Jim Yanne’s book on Third Reich Vittle Utensils :rolleyes:

Thanks in advance for your help! Rossi & James