help with these 2 items please

Ok guys gotta ask for help on these please. I spent quite awhile reading posts and trying to figure these out but just havent the time and patience to keep going. After well over an hour if not two I have to admit to myself I don’t know jack crap about these type items. I learned quite a bit and found the posts really informative though but dont think 1 nights studying is gonna make me an expert, in fact I realized how much there is to learn about ID disks. These were acquired by my dad at auction and have found few other fake items from same lot so am already skeptical. I’m gonna give a shot though. My guess is 1st item is fake. In hand it just seems flimsy and could be bent with bare hands w/o too much effort. The metal appears wrong judging from other pics i’ve seen,(never had an original in hand),couldnt really match font with any in the sticky post archive and not sure if the wording is correct. Is it supposed to be 3rd Stb batt. of the 8th SS police regt? Also the metal isnt at all smooth looking and the hole looksww2 stuff 004.jpg off center. (pic #1 is back of disk) It is magnetic if that helps. Dont know what exactly 2nd item is supposed to be and if not appropriate for post here I apologize.Only thing I remember seeing like it maybe called it like a laundry disk youd get when you dropped off uniforms for laundering or tailor maybe. Its not magnetic and note all scuffs on front and dirt caked on back.Both items fake i’ll guess but help appreciated greatly. Thanks! Jeff B.ww2 stuff 002.jpgww2 stuff 001.jpgww2 stuff 012.jpgww2 stuff 010.jpg


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