Please help with this .308 tip
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I have this item that was sold as a Luftwaffe engineers collar tab a long time ago. As an Iron Cross and Combat Badge guy I am not particularly informed about collar tabs. I just have a few cloth items hanging on my wall. Upon playing around with a blacklight recently I noticed that this tab really lit up, compared to my other few Luftwaffe collar tabs. Oddly however, only the pink material lit up, all the threads, piping and white and tan backing did not glow under blacklight at all. It also seemed to pass the burn test when I burned a small thread, for what that’s worth. My only concern is, that this is a bright pink color that could possibly glow under black light due to the color itself, not because it is made after the war. Someone more knowledgable on these may be able to identify at a glance if its legit or not. I just want to make sure before I get rid of something authentic based on false info.
The one photo is under black light, and black light doesn’t photograph well just took it to illustrate the glow, so sorry about the quality.
Thanks
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I held onto the Repo for 40+ years as a very very long term "placeholder" until such time I could own an original PLM. Today (thanks to next day shipping) was THAT DAY as I was fortunate enough to purchase this one. I would like to thank the prior owner. A class act who helped me immensely
I only had cursory knowledge of these awards having never really studied them in detail. So over the course of 3 days, I immersed myself with whatever info I could find and asking people many silly questions. I still have a ways to go before I even scratch the surface on the complexity of these awards. And some of the information I have noted below might be off.
This example is a WW1 style example (i.e. silver with gold Gilt) made by Wagner. (Prior to WW1 or 1916, they were all gold). My example is of 1920’s/30’s manufacture as a private purchase replacement or extra copy. This is observable, I have been told, based on the deep cross hatching of the chest feathers (enhanced due to the dies wearing out).
Wagner, I have read, was the official maker of "issued" awards during WW1 by order of the Kaiser. Further except for a very few early examples, all war time "issued" awards had the Baroque suspension ring versus the "pie" shaped style seen on some but not all of the other manufactures. The other war time manufacturers (i.e. Godet, Meyerbeyer, Schickle, S&L, etc.) were private purchase.
The PLM Order ceased to be issued in 1918 with the abdication of the Kaiser. All post WW1 examples are considered private purchase.
Anyway, here are some photos. (including my 1970’s copy )
(note: My photos were too large to upload so I had to resize them down. Hope it does not hurt the image quality.)
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First one is (I think) from early 50s? Can’t find any numbers on the shell, liner has Westinghouse and CAPAC 51,52,53, strap has UC 3 signatures, leather one is from belgian helmet and netting is also something from Europe (but it looks nice)