Hello all, I have a pair of Schnürschuhe and I have some concerns about them being WW2 German. The style appears to be similar to other original pairs I have seen. There are only 4 eyelets instead of 5. There is a pull tab on the back on the inside. Also the size inside is 45, to my understanding the sizes are lower numbers. I was wondering do you all think these are WW2 German? If these aren’t German what are they? I would appreciate any help, thanks!

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Posting these documents up here for opinions.
Ralph.

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Hello,

For the past few years I have been working on establishing a collection of insignia that was worn by the German enlisted soldier for each year from 1932-1945. I have pretty much completed my project. My collecting interest is around the Ulm/Neu Ulm area in Germany. My insignia is based in the Reichsheer infantry regiment 13 and the Third Reich infantry regiment 56.

John Angolia and Adolf Schlict’s wonderful series [B][U]UNIFORMS AND TRADITIONS OF THE GERMAN ARMY 1933-1945[B][U] was an indespensable reference to help accomplish this task. I hope you enjoy this.

In 1932 the Reichsheer had been wearing their standard feldbluse with facings in dark field grey (reseda Green). The shoulder straps were rounded and piped in branch of service color, white for infantry. The regimental number was also embroidered in the branch of service color. There was no eagle application at this time. The small sized collar tabs had been in use since 1928 backed on dark field grey and piped in white. Rank insignia, signal blitzes, and specialty patches were backed on dark field grey.The standard uniform insignia was made of wool and the insignia for the summer, moleskin, tunic are backed on moleskin

In 1933 the new feldbluse came out. There was still no eagle application and the insignia was backed on dark field grey. The collar and shoulder straps are now made out of uniform cloth material matching the color of the tunic. The shoulder straps have no piping and are pointed on the ends. They are not piped but the regimental number is embroidered in the branch of service color, white for infantry.The cap insignia is now in the national colors and no longer the state colors. The collar and shoulder strap tresse is the old style "waffle pattern"

1934 was the first year of the eagle application. The hoheitsabzeichen, an eagle holding a swastika was worn over the right breast pocket. The facing and collar color was changed to dark field grey. The shoulder straps are still not piped. All rank chevrons, signal blitzes, specialty patches and collar tabs were backed on this new facing color . A strip of colored braid was sewn over the national colors on the hat. This braid was in the branch of service color

1935 the facing color was changed to a dark bluish green. All rank chevrons, signal blitzes, specialty patches and collar tabs were backed on this color. The shoulder straps were also changed to this color. The first pattern breast eagle was still used and the cap insignia was changes to a woven roundel and a small woven eagle of the same pattern and color of the breast eagle. The eagles and roundels were backed on a light grey color. In late 1935/ early 1936 the tresse pattern was changed from the "waffle" pattern to a checkered pattern. The material of manufacture was changed from a silver yarn to a bright aluminum yarn.

1936 the insignia stayed the same as the year before. No significant changes that I have seen. The shoulder strap has the new style tresse.

1937 The facing colors stayed the same, dark bluish green. The breast eagle, cap eagle and roundel were made in a more stylized pattern and changed to white on a dark bluish green backing, matching the facings.

In 1938 we see two major changes. The shoulder straps now have round ends and are piped in the branch service color. The collar tabs are now just three dark green strips on a grey base. These are the first pattern einheits collar tabs

1939 We see a slight change in the insignia. The eagles are still backed on a dark bluish green material but the color of the eagle is now a light grey

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Hi folks, I suppose I should have posted the collar patches & eagle separately but I think they do look nice together, All 2nd pattern heer insignia I believecool militaria . I once thought that the collar patches had panzer grenadier Waffenfarbe but after reading up on some of Fred Greens old posts that the 3 dark green bars are just generic on the 2nd pattern (well I never new that!)cool militaria As for the eagle I love the way its zig-zagged stitched to the backing material or maybe its a piece of tunic. hope you like, any opinions as always welcome ,Regards,Paul:D

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Someone is trying to sell this on Facebook, passing it off as an "original". Does it even stand a chance at being real? As I am not an "expert" on German WWII erasers, I would love some more opinions on this before I comment.

Looks a lot like a German Arms Stamp to me. Seems pretty ridiculous to mark an eraser like that.

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