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South African-made Pattern 1937 Webbing Equipment set.
The set without the 1908 Large Pack. Note that the back buckles on the belt are South African-made, but not original to the belt.
An inside view of the set.
The Waistbelt is of South African manufacture, but lacks markings. Note the thin layer of webbing stitched along the inside of the belt (similar to the British economy pattern) as well as the alloy fittings. It is unclear if this belt was made by D. I. FRAM & CO. LTD. or S.A.P.A.W.
The buckle is also made of alloy. Note the corrosion.
The South African Braces were made by South African Proofing and Weaving Company (Pty) Ltd and are distinctive for the 1" strap that runs the entire length of the 2" shoulder section (possibly to add reinforcement to the inferior webbing). Note the partial Union of South Africa ownership mark (A Broad Arrow inside the letter U).
The right brace is marked S.A.P.A.W. ~ JHB. 1943.
The left brace is marked S.A.P.A.W. ~ JHB. 1943.
The basic pouches were made by Daniel Isaac Fram & Company, Limited and are distinctive for their 1 closure straps with alloy tips. Note the difference in the finish of the of the alloy fittings, with the pouch on the RH side in this picture having gold-painted parts (to possibly mimic the brass found on British and Canadian webbing).
Left basic pouch.
A close-up of the basic pouch 4-bar Mills patent buckle, again painted gold.
The Left basic pouch is marked D.I.F. & CO. LTD. Note the Union of South Africa ownership mark (A Broad Arrow inside the letter U).
The snaps on South African webbing initially used flimsy press snaps, but these were replaced later on with imported Canadian-made Carr snaps. Although items made by Daniel Isaac Fram & Company, Limited are frequently undated, the snaps give a rough idea of the age. United Carr of Canada switched from a pebbled texture to a smooth texture in 1942. If the snap is pebbled, the item roughly dates from 1940-1942 and if it is smooth it was more likely made from 1942-1945. The inside of this snap is marked UNITED-CARR ~ CANADA.
The reverse of the basic pouch shows roughly-made belt hooks set very close together as well as the attachment of the 4-bar buckle and fairlead constructed of multiple pieces of thin webbing held together with multiple layers of stitching.
Right basic pouch. Note the smooth stamp, placing the production date at 1942 or later.
The right basic pouch is marked D. I. FRAM & CO. LTD.. Note the Union of South Africa ownership mark (A Broad Arrow inside the letter U).
A New Zealand-made Cobalt Blue Mk VII Waterbottle in South African-made Waterbottle Carrier. As New Zealand and South Africa were both members of the Eastern Group Supply Council (EGSC), it is not unreasonable for a New Zealand bottle to have made it into the Union.
A top view of the Waterbottle shows the 9-inch Stopper Cord tied to a wire loop attached to back of the spout. The stopper is made of wood, a common feature on New Zealand-made bottles. Also note the smooth Canadian Carr snap on the Waterbottle Carrier, placing production between 1942-1945.
A view of the bottom of the Waterbottle shows the distinctive drawstring closure on New Zealand-made Waterbottle Covers as well as the paper production label. The label reads MANUFACTURED BY ~ THE NATIONAL (NEECO) ELECTRICAL ~ AND ENGINEERING COMPANY LIMITED ~ WELLINGTON, NEW ZEALAND.
The Carrier is marked D. I. FRAM & CO. LTD.. Note the Union of South Africa ownership mark (A Broad Arrow inside the letter U).
South African Small Pack made by South African Proofing and Weaving Company (Pty) Ltd. Note the wide separation of the closure straps, similar in style to Canadian-made packs.
The Small Pack is marked S.A.P.A.W. ~ JHB. 1942. Note the South African inspection stamp consisting of an ownership mark (A Broad Arrow inside the letter U) adjacent to an inspector number 2.
A view of the inside of the Small Pack shows the internal cloth dividers for the Waterbottle and Mess Tins.
An Australian-made Bayonet, Number 1 Mark 1, alongside a South African-made No. 1 Mk II Bayonet Scabbard and webbing Frog. Note that this bayonet has been chromed for parade use.
Bayonet Ricasso marked with a bending proof X mark as well as MA denoting that the bayonet was manufactured at Lithgow Small Arms Factory in Lithgow, New South Wales.
Bayonet Ricasso marked with an Australian manufacture mark in the form of MA ~ 1907 ~ I acknowledging the pattern as well as the manufacture date of 1942.
The pommel is marked with a Union of South Africa ownership mark (A Broad Arrow inside the letter U). South Africa received a large supply of Australian-made 1907 Bayonets during the war.
The South African-made No. 1 Mk II Bayonet Scabbard was made by South African Railways, possibly at their Salt River Railway Workshop near Cape Town. Note also the South African inspection stamp consisting of an ownership mark (A Broad Arrow inside the letter U) adjacent to an inspector number of 49.
The Scabbard is also marked ‘W’ for ‘Waxed’, referring to the finish on the leather.
The frog was made by Daniel Isaac Fram & Company, Limited and is constructed of multiple pieces of thin webbing held together with multiple layers of stitching. It also features a buttonhole in the upper loop to accommodate a spike bayonet (most likely a later addition).
The Frog is marked D. I. FRAM & CO. LTD.. Note the Union of South Africa ownership mark (A Broad Arrow inside the letter U).
South African-made Pattern 1908 Large Pack and Support Straps; note how the closure straps on the pack flap do not line up with the buckles.
The Large Pack is marked S.A.P.A.W. ~ JHB. 1944.
Note the Union of South Africa ownership mark (A Broad Arrow inside the letter U).
A close-up of the weather flap with its brass eyelet.
Shoulder straps made by Daniel Isaac Fram & Company, Limited and again constructed of multiple pieces of thin webbing held together with multiple layers of stitching.
These Shoulder Straps are marked D. I. FRAM & CO. LTD..
A close-up of the shoulder strap hooks. Note the alloy construction.
A close-up of the shoulder strap fittings and running 2-inch Twigg buckles, all made of alloy.
Support straps made by Daniel Isaac Fram & Company, Limited and once again constructed of multiple pieces of thin webbing held together with multiple layers of stitching.
These Support Straps are marked D. I. FRAM & CO. LTD..
Both straps have ownership marks. Note the faint trace of gold paint on the alloy fitting as well as the distinctive rivets, common on webbing made by Daniel Isaac Fram & Company, Limited.
Thank you for taking the time to read this thread! You now know as much as I do about South African webbing and you should be able to identify it if you come across any in the future (as it will likely be mislabeled).
Can somebody tell me more about the maker?
Can somebody tell me more about the maker?
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