Hi.
Were these manufactured in different sizes or just difference due to the different maker? Green ones are mint and shorter.
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K.

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We’re talking about the British Mk 3 and Mk 4 helmet shells. There are two points. It turns out there’s some degree of uncertainty as to the actual production years of these helmets, especially as to when they ceased production. Also, there is a theory, propounded by the estimable Roger Lucy, that Knowledge can be obtained from examining the batch codes stamped inside most (but not all) of these helmet shells.

Popular understanding has it that the Mk3 (that’s the one with the bolt-in liner and the high-set chinstrap lugs) came into production in 1944, with the revised version, the Mk 4 (lift-the-dot liner, lower set chinstrap lugs) in 1945 (contract awarded December ‘44).

It isn’t clear when production of the Mk3 ceased, though it would be reasonable to believe it would have been at the time Mk4 production was started. It is said - Cotton, MILITARIA MAGAZINE article 1995 - that 1-million+ Mk4 helmets were ordered in December 1944 - but Cotton himself later implied that few were actually produced soon after. It is thought - perhaps wrongly - that there were two bursts of production, one immediately at the end of WW2 and the other during the Korean crisis of the early 50s.

Given the present lack of the promised book by M Cotton which will make everything clear, the best we can do is try, by looking at the actual shells, to establish a fair idea of the period(s) of production. It is generally believed, for example, that there are *no* shells dated after 1953. Is that true?
So the task is simple but difficult. Just examine the shells of your Mk3 and Mk4 (which includes the notional Mk5 which is after all only an old Mk 4 shell with a different liner and a fresh coat of paint).

The difficult part is that the manufacturers stampings can be hard to locate, hard to read, and maybe not even there in the first place. And may have been totally obscured by many coats of paint. Look under the front brim, or around the chinstrap lugs. Stampings can be aligned either horizontally or vertically. There’s no pattern or sense to it.

What you will be looking for is a grouping of letters and digits that will probably (not always) comprise something like this -

RO&CO CA 1952 4

but *not * in a line like that. That information is the manufacturer (RO&CO, or BMB), a batch code, the date, and the mark of helmet (this could be 3 or 4, or III or IV).

These stamps are often very lightly struck and will be difficult to read - use a bright light angled against the metal to bring out the lines. Even if you cannot make out all the characters just the maker and date will be good.

The more I (and Roger) have looked into this the more we realise the published information is inadequate and that the more we find out the less we know. This is useful research, please help.

This is what I have been able to read from part of my collection (some unreadable, some inaccessible at the moment) -

Mk3

RO&CO DO 1944 III

Mk4

RO&CO FS 1945 4
RO&CO FS 1945 4
RO&CO FF 1945 4

RO&CO DI 1952 4
RO&CO CA 1952 II (that’s really what is there!)
RO&CO MA AD 1953 4

BMB A3 (no date) 4
BMB C791 (date unreadable) 4
On the basis of this sample it does seem to reinforce the idea that there *was* indeed a substantial batch produced immediately after the Mk4 contract was awarded. And the Korean War crisis run seems to be reflected also. And is it really true that no shells were pressed after 1953?

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Description: This is an excellent relic helmet - an M35 DOUBLE DECAL SS Helmet, found at Demjansk at the site of the SS Totenkopf Division. The condition of this shell is unparalleled - with almost full paint coverage, an A liner band and the shell markings still very very clear. Both decals are still well represented at about 60-70%. If not in relic condition these helmets go for $10,000 easy, so don’t miss out on this bargain chance to own a double decal SS helmet!!

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Could this FJ Rivets be original, or repro with some dirt ?

Photos arent the best but i only got these

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Hello

Might be a bit modern for everyones taste but here is my USMC OKS 3S bayonet. These have been in service only with the US marines since 2003 and replaced the M7. The scabbard is MOLLE compatible and has a sharpening tool like the M9. The USMC issued bayonets are identical to the commercial bayonets sold by Ontario Knife Company. This one seems almost brand new but was fairly cheap so I think it might be a surplus one. It is very sharp, even the false edge and actually cut my rag in half when I was wiping the blade clean.

Any comments welcome.

Alex

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Hello everyone

I finally purchased my first Japanese sword, a matching Tokyo First NCO sword. I still would like a traditional shin gunto but at this point in time my budget doesn’t allow it. This was purchased through a reputable dealer but I still would like to double check its all good. The saya has been repainted at some time - does it look period or post war? The blade is pretty close to perfect but unfortunately a lot of the paint on the tsuka is gone. Happy to provide further photos if required. Thanks for any comments.

Alex

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